I used to think that rapid increases in Iraqi oil production would practically guarantee a significant strengthening of the dinar over the next ten years. Surprisingly, however, history suggests that this is far from a foregone conclusion.
While the Oil Ministry claims that Iraqi capacity will rise by 10 million barrels per day (mn bbl/d) to something like 12 mn bbl/d by the end of this decade, few analysts take this projection seriously. In fact, no country has ever achieved such a large incremental increase in a ten-year period. Historically, a recent study by the Energy Policy Research Foundation (available at http://www.eprinc.org/pdf/EPRINC-Iraq-FirstLook.pdf) found that Saudi Arabia came closest, with an increase of about 6 mn bbl/d (up 150%) from 1970 – 79, followed by Iran, which went from around 2 – 6 mn bbl/d from 1965 – 1974, and Russia, which raised production by some 4 mn bbl/d (68%) from 1998 – 2007.
But suppose for the sake of argument that Iraq was able to match these precedents and raised production from approximately 2 mn bbl/d at present to, say, 6 mn bbl/d by 2019. What would happen to the dinar if it followed a trajectory similar to the Saudi riyal, Iranian rial, or Russian ruble during the oil booms in those three countries?
Not much, as it turns out. If it’s like the riyal or the ruble, the dinar would actually depreciate in US dollar terms by 25% or 16%, respectively. And the rial appreciated by just 12% from 1965 – 1974. (See chart. As the indices are based on year-end US$/local currency exchange rates, increases/decreases in an index correspond to appreciation/depreciation against the dollar.)
The problem with the idea that increased oil production must be bullish for the dinar is that it is based on the assumption that nothing changes except the output of oil (what economists call a “ceteris paribus” assumption). In fact, however, many other things can be expected to change. In the case of a large country like Russia, for example, domestic demand for refined products may rise significantly as well so that exports don’t go up at the same pace as crude production volumes. In the Saudi and Iranian cases, oil booms led to import booms, with the result that demand for foreign exchange rose along with increased export earnings. There might also be scenarios in which an increasingly confiscatory taxation regime led to greater dollar demand due to capital flight. And of course exporting more barrels won’t necessarily lead to higher forex revenues during an oil-price slump.
History’s lesson for the dinar is that whether it strengthens or weakens over the next decade will depend not only on Iraq’s success in increasing oil production but also on the economic changes that this increased production induces. If Iraqi demand for imports and refined products were frozen for ten years at current levels, a 4 mn bbl/d production increase would be unambiguously dinar positive. But in a more realistic scenario, supply and demand for foreign exchange are likely to grow together, with the result that the exchange rate may not deviate dramatically from its current level.



And that matches perfectly with the CBI financials that I have linked a number of times that is very easy to understand. Unless you’re a fake millionaire and fake IMF employee.
Here’s a new one for just 2004.
http://www.cbi.iq/documents/Annual_2004f.pdf
Scroll down to Table one. Currency issued. By the end of Jan it was 5 trillion with the public and by the end of the year 7 trillion.
It’s stunning that you claim to work for the IMF and you don’t even have a clue as to what currency in circulation, M1 and M2 numbers represent.
That in itself proves you are a lying sac of scum.
Key finacials
http://www.cbi.iq/documents/key%20financial.xls
Currency outside of banks
2004 2005 2006 2007 2008
7,163 9,113 10,968 14,232 18,493
A multimillionaire, 3 economics degrees, a PHD from Harvard, and more. Yet you don't understand the term "currency outside of banks"
This is from Feb 2010.
http://www.dinarbanker.com/2010-iraqi-dinar-news/iraq-planning-currency-redenomination.html
Salih added that in 1990 the value of banknotes in circulation was about 25 billion Iraqi dinars but is currently some 25 trillion dinars
OMG, Stew posted a link from a dinar dealer site. Maybe he's the pumper. Hahahahaha. Also note, that he's quoting info from 1990.
Anyways, buy if you want, don't buy if you want. Why after all these months are you guys still arguing? You'll never change each other's minds!
GR… this whole thing is about returning to the old rate. You don’t think it’s relevant that when they had the old rate they had 25 Billion dinar… and they now have 27 Trillion dinar. 60 Trillion M2. The fact is they have over 1000 times more currency now then they did before, which perfectly explains why their exchange rate is now 1000 times lower. It also sets them up perfectly to “delete 3 zeros” as they have said over and over they want to do… reducing the 27 Trillion back to 27 Billion.
That is a 99.99% reduction in currency… only way to do that is with a lop/redenomination.
LOL… who was that pumping the Vietnamese Dong not that long ago. Oh yeah… it was that genius millionaire JC who never gets involved with a loser.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/vietnam-devalues-currency-8-5-per-cent-amid-20110210-212423-632.html
Vietnam devalued its currency Friday by 8.5 per cent
The dong has lost about 30% of its value since the dinar dealers and their pumpers started pushing it. With the huge mark-up they charged, investors have lost about 50%... so far.
Investors in the dinar will be lucky to lose only 50% when it redenominates.
Another Monday passes... and more dinar pumpers are proven to be lying scammers. Yet the believers will ask for more.
Reminds me of Charlie Brown continuing to try to kick that football.
Right on Stew. I've seen hundreds and hundreds of predictions for a $3+ RV just in the last few months. As much as I'd like to see a huge jump in value I think we'll be lucky to see a slight increase - that is if they don't lop in the near future. I think any gains we'll see will be fairly modest - at best a gradual increase in value if a lot of stuff goes right. I think this is a legitimate investment although fairly high risk. It's a shame that all these baseless predictions of a gigantic RV have gotten so far out of control. I think if there ever is a profit to be made it'll be in the fairly distant future.
Stew,
If they do Lop and RV to say $3, will be still get the benefit with our current dinar notes?
LZ
First, let me say I don't think they will RV to $3. I think they will take 3 zeros from the exchange rate along with the 1000 old for 1 new exchnage. That is the normal procedure. That would mean the current rate of .00085 would become .85.
Now... if they do RV to $3 with the lop, which isn't a totally insane thought, like expecting a 100,000 to 300,000% RV. If they RV to $3 then it would just depend on the exchange. Iraq might try to block currency from re-entering the country. Would any banks touch it? Who knows. You might still have to deal with the same dealers that have sold it. They are going charge you to do it. If they don't think they can get it back into Iraq they wont touch it and you'll be stuck with it. Might depend on how long the exchange period is. The shorter the exchnage period the more likely you are to take a big hit.
I agree with that Stew. I think there is some chance that there could be a 3 to 1 RV after a lop where there could be a chance to maybe double your investment (if the old currency can be exchanged). I'd like to see a slow, incremental growth without a lop but I don't know how likely that is to happen. The question that I'm trying to figure out is would it be better for their currency and economy to gradually let it grow to say 500 to 1 from 1170 to 1 - and then continue to possibly grow from there - or possibly just stay where it's at without a lop and let the free market decide? Or would it be better to lop? With a lop, the growth of their currency would be fairly limited although a 3 to 1 RV would bring the value up substantially. I'm thinking there's a 50% chance of either but a 0% of a 100,000 or 300,000% RV overnight.
I disagree with this article based on a fallacy in logic to his comparison. First of all, the time periods he talks about were so long ago that the methods of pulling oil were almost stone-aged compared to todays methods. Secondly, Iraq is signing contracts with 3rd party oil companies that will be investing millions if not billions to build thier oil productions and they want the shortest possible ROI as they can. And lastly, I don't believe (and most that I read about) that the Dinar's value will be a function of the oil production, it's more based on the current economics and world exchange rates which he doesn't account for. One more thought is that there are way more factors involved in the value or a currencey, to think a single factor is everything is just narrow minded. That's my .02
http://theiraqidinar.com/category/rumors/
here is some good news for the believers!
I've been seeing this stuff for months and months now. According to Okie I think it's probably RVd at least 50 times by now. lol. I especially like the part about the RV rate being between $5 and $5.22. That rate seems optimistic even if they lopped first! 5 cents would actually be more believable but not sure they could even support that rate at the current time.
It's funny when I look at the message forums and posts from various people. Okie, Frank, TerryK, Kaperoni, etc all claiming that Iraq cannot lop their currency, that it would 'devalue' the currency. Actually the funny part is that people don't read the material that is available from more qualified sources than an internet dinar 'guru'.
The other funny aspects are those that call out the 'pumpers' for their continued failed predictions are thrashed in the replies, as are those that try and spell out why they will not see their $1000 buy-in return a $1+ dollars.
From what they say towards the bottom of the message it looks like they're going to handle their currency the way that Turkey did which I think was a straight up lop. Doesn't look good for a 100,000% RV but I guess this is Iraq and anything can happen right?
Message from American Contractor
The formation of the Iraqi government is still an ongoing task.
Three ministry posts still remain.
The Al-Iraqiyah List leader Iyad Allawi will hold a meeting, which
is the first of its kind in a little over a month with Prime
Minister Nuri Al-Maliki. This meeting will be held with the ever
increasing demonstrations of the Iraqi people who remain concerned
with reinforcing public freedom in Iraq as well as administrative
and financial corruption. Many of the local observers are already
expecting the meeting between Allawi and Maliki to fail. If this
should occur expect a possible collapse of the government and the
withdrawal of some of the ministers.
This coming March, the Iraqi government is planning to impose an
increase in the custom tariffs. This plan will cause a rise in the
prices of imported commodities and a decrease in the purchasing
power of people. The General Director of Foreign economic relations
at the Ministry of Trade, said the law will be applicable starting
6 March, noting that the new custom tariffs might reach 80% on some
goods, such as fruits and vegetables, home appliances etc. The new
plan is geared at protecting the economy and the Iraqi Merchants
have said that the prices will increase but in an acceptable way.
On the 13th February the Council of Representatives will resume its
31st session. This announcement was followed by a very heated
debate in regards to the budget. The budget continues to remain
unsettled due to the Finance Minister and other experts failing to
make an appearance. Expect this debate to be an ongoing one. In
addition, the financial committees as well as many other members of
Parliament have yet to file their report on the latest amendments
to the Budget Draft law.
In regards to the Iraqi currency:
Expect the Central Bank of Iraq to be distributing the new Iraq
dinar currency just after they complete their internal report. No
one seems to know a completion date for the internal report so
expect it to be ongoing and dragging on for a long period of time.
From what I am getting on my end (here in Baghdad), Iraq will be
following suit right along with the way the country, Turkey,
handled their currency. Both the new and the old currency will be
simultaneously in circulation. Don't misunderstand this upcoming
merge of currencies to be any indication or form of RV or RI as
some would like to make you think (and WILL try to make you think).
And, keep in mind that the internal report as I mentioned above,
could be a lengthily process as is everything in Iraq.
In regards to those emails asking me why my postings have slowed
down, I can only say that I report news as it comes in and many
times my delay in posting is due to my double checking my sources
and confirming information before it is made public. I will only
post information that I know to be factual and accurate.
As always, thanks for reading and being a loyal follower.
Well, good to see chaos still is the code word for the day. I will tell you from the information that I have received from the committies involved here at the IMF on currency change, only 1 person out of a more than 30 think that Iraq will LOP. What the LOP supporters fail to realize is, Iraq isn't paying out the huge sums of money that will be brought about by the upcoming currency change. It's much more complicated than that, and involves chains of events that most people would have trouble grasping. Oil is only a fraction of what comes into play. Iraq is actually last in line in the payout structure, and the money will change hands many times over before it arrives back in Iraq.
As for Stews claim that the CBI wouldn't accept currency coming from out pof the country, that is simply not accurate. Various countries from around the world are in fact, holding dinar, as is the IMF. I can promise you, that if Iraq were to try anything to go against the Paris Club treaty in their debt forgivness, the UN will place them back into complete Chapter 7 restrictions, the sitting government will be replaced, and the process will start from scratch. There are too many hands that are steering this vessel, to consider Iraq being allowed to fail. Wake up, and open your eyes. Can you not see what is happening to the middle east? Democracy is breaking out all over, and there is much going on that you, the general public, are not privy too. Just sit back, watch what happens, and in a short time, everyone, icluding the non-believers, will know where this whole event ends up.
Mark... a lot of the delete 3 zero articles even used Turkey as an example of what they would do. Which is of course lop. But pumpers like JC/Gov Connect just push right past it and continue to shout the lies like a good scammer will.
The dinar dealers will be out of business if they Lop, so will the pumpers. The question is....will we be able to trade them in at a bank or will we have to go thru the dealers who will probably make another profit cashing us out.
As Brit pointed out above. One of the more amazing phenomenon’s in these scams is the adoration heaped on the scammers by the ones getting scammed. Even after 6 or so years of blatant lying and pumping… the dupes still practically beg for more and will vehemently attack anyone who dares question the scammers.
I would like to think that when the dinar lops and people lose money they will become angry at those that lied to them… and while some will be mad, there will be a large percentage of people that will still defend them after the fact.
There are going to be excuses made. Like the RV was set to happen, but Maliki or Shabib, or Obama, or the IMF screwed it up.
Go look at any penny stock board after it’s been proven to be a scam and sunk to .000001. There are always people there defending the scammers blaming the government or some other entity for their demise. It will happen with the dinar too.
The scammers will probably get people to give them more money to become part of a class action lawsuit that will get them their well deserved millions.
Dinar Daddys RV alerts that he charges for will then be called the Dinar Daddy class action alerts. For $10 a month he will give you super secret information only known by the insiders and Gov lawyers, and it's imprtant you are first in line to the lawsuit cash-in! He will be running one of Ali's class action information and rewards centers, soon to be opened.
Sad… very sad. These people should be in jail.
People have claimed for a long time what GovCon is stating, that several countries are holding dinar. However, every time it has been asked to prove it nobody has been up to the challenge. So it goes, that they only people that seem to know this for a fact, are also the same ones that claim week in and week out of a huge RV.
Given the gurus/pumpers claims of weekly RV's with nothing happening other than spikes in dinar sales, does it make sense to listen to them on what countries hold in regards to currency reserves? Simple answer - NO.
I have always hoped to make about 10% on my money with this and was bowled over when I happened into the chat rooms and saw the out and out lies these so called guru's were spouting. I never expected to make the kind of profit that these sites are claiming is going to happen. What I don't understand is how they get away with it. I'm convinced the pumpers are paid by someone, my guess is a dealer. But again no proof of that.
I've been a currency trader for over twenty years and bought the dinar because of, you guessed it a friend, I figured why not? Can't hurt and if I can make 10% fine. But my friend alas bet her whole savings on the advice and constant barage of guru predictions.
I've watched people lose their homes and spend their last dollar on dinar before they even paid the rent.
The dealers aren't making money on the ones that have been in this for a while they are making money on the newbies that buy the scam and there are always a couple of hundred a day at least.
It's sad really, all anyone has to do is read for themselves and they will know that it is not going to happen as the guru's predict. There will be a redomination (lop isn't even used in the world of currency, it's a made up word by the guru's) it is the only thing that makes sense for Iraq.. So I won't make my 10% but it's ok, I haven't bet the farm on it either!
Stew, Once Again, advise people to buy their dinar from a bank in the US, and yet I don't see you saying anything about that. People have the right to invest there money anyway they see fit, even if it is a scam. I watched my 401 drop 4G's in a month to finacial manager that said they knew what they where doing. So guess what why don't you come to the table with more Geopolitical information instead of a secound hand economics degree. If America learned anything from the Housing market it was that the US used its 700,000,000 im oil reseve to bail out the banks.......hhhhmmmm.... so Oil is worth nothing to you, well it is to the rest of the world and the world has and intrest in Iraq So it is safe to say that there economy will grow (you would know this if you had been there in the last year or so) and so will the currency. Will it go to 3.40 to a dollar (not), how about we move the decimal over one more time and get a better picture like this .34 to the dollar That sound about right don't you think. Besides I see your name on here alot do you have a job or dose Dinar daddy pay you to sit at a desk and stir the crap. Investments go bad all the time what do you care if people in America spend money in America to have a dream. Oh thats right it not good for Americans to spend money in America. You must be Demacrat always telling people what to do with their lives. enough is enough sign off and let people dream about life. Life is about risk go read about the successful people in life, risk was part of the game and they played the odds and won.
I just read that last post but that's from a different Mark. I'm the Mark that's been posting on this thread for months now. I'm kind of with Stew in that I don't see a big RV happening but of course it would be nice if investors could make some money off of it. Anyway, just wanted to clear that up.
Mark... new Mark that is. I have to ask you why it bothers you so much if I point out the lies the dealers and pumpers tell? Just as you stated... everyone has the right to invest in what ever they like... but they also have the right to know the whole story... to be presented all the facts. But apparently you don't agree with that. You want just the lies and fantasies to be presented.
Now... I have never once stated Iraq’s economy will not grow. But... please tell me where you get this idea that as an economy grows the value of it's currency goes up. That's another fallacy pushed by dinar dealers and pumpers. As the economy grows the money supply grows. That is almost always done by injecting more currency into the system and practically never done by increasing the exchange rate.
Example… the other currency dinar dealers pump… the Vietnamese Dong. It continues to get Devalued… Yet Vietnam is one of the fastest growing economies in the world.
Example 2… Venezuela… which is a perfect example compared to Iraq considering Venezuela, like Iraq, has an economy based primarily off oil. Venezuela’s economy was roaring along, yet the currency was sinking in value, it got so bad they had to redenominated/lop the currency… just as Iraq has said they plan to do with the dinar.
I'll wait for your example of an growing economy that increases it's currency value 100,000% or more like the gurus claim is about to happen. Heck... I'll even take an example of 10,000 %, even 1,000%.
Hey Stew, How about Kuwait they have nothing else but oil to offer the world and yet their curency is 3.5 time that of the dollar. Did it took 20yrs to turn around. I've been there too, and you they are doing quite well, what you fail to realize is that with oil brings industy,job,and infastructure. Iraq has potential and for the long term invester Iraq will pan out sooner or later. To all those people out there that want to invest in curancy. Do your research like I did and be cautious when you here things that are to good to be true. Taking a risk in life is just that "Risk" if the Dinar dose not pan out you have a real nice monopoly set that you can add Stews picture in were water work would be, and below the picture it can read "Stew told you so" If anything Stew, it sounds like you have been taken buy an Iraqi dinar Dealer who sold you some Old dinar you know. Here's a question for ya stew have you been to the middle east or are you just monday morning quarterbacking the economey of anther counrty from a couch in the states. I noticed you didn't comment on the basics of business Stew, Banks in America do the same thing every day. I get 2% interest on a savings account and for them to watch over that account I get a $10 dollor sevice charge that is a deduction in my account of $8 so I mite make a doller buy the time the bank is done with there fees. So I do my research and cange banks, fees for service are legal and that is how business is run in America. That is also why people are getting "scammed". So long as they receive a product inflated price or not there is nothing that can be done and about it. tell me that you have never rasied the price on something to make a few dollar. Idont know a man on this eather that hasn't tried to make a Buck or two. Ringling Brother and Barnamun Bailey were the master at it and there moto was that a sucker was born every minute.
I agree Shela. Doesn't look like anyone's going to make 100,000% or more. Some of the pumpers even say $1 would be too low and they have to come in at at least $5! I have to admit I got a bit caught up in the craze a while back and became excited because I had dinar that I'd bought about 5 years ago thinking it would go up in value as the situation improved over there. I even thought wow maybe it's really gonna hit $3+ like the pumpers were saying and continue to say. There are a lot of variables that go into currency values as the article on this thread states. I still don't know 100% if they're going to lop, maybe they'll still decide to let it grow on its own. It's gone up slightly in value over the last 5 or 6 years and they do have a very nice watermark currency so I guess there's a chance we won't see an immediate lop but I have my doubts. Since I'm invested in it I'm hoping they'll let it grow on its own or just stay where its at. Since currency growth doesn't correlate with economic growth would it benefit them at all if it were to grow to say 500 to 1 or even up to a penny? Wouldn't that give them more purchasing power and be a good thing? Just trying to fully understand it all. Thanx for the input guys.
Mark 2… apparently in doing your research you missed this.
http://www.cbk.gov.kw/cbkweb/servlet/cbkmain?Action=mstats#
Kuwait currently has 1 Billion dinar issued.
Iraq has 27 Trillion
So Iraq has 27,000 times more currency issued than Kuwait.
In terms of value:
Kuwait has $3.5 Billion worth of currency issued.
Iraq has $23 Billion worth of currency issued.
Meaning Iraq dinar in circulation are 6.5 times more valuable than Kuwait dinar in circulation.
If you don’t understand why a country with 27,000 times more currency in circulation would have a much lower exchange rate, then I can’t help you.
Kuwait population 2.7 million
Iraq population 30.7 million
Iraq has 15 times more people
So 15 times more people need 27,000 times more currency?
Population is not that big of a factor anyway. Money supply is obviously determined by a number of factors. But I'd say size of economy is number one.
Recently I noticed that GDP (size of economy) for the entire world is about 60 Trillion dollars. Guess what the money supply (M2) for the whole world is right now? Yep… about 60 Trillion dollars.
So that would lead one to believe that a countries money supply to GDP ratio should be about 1/1. Further research, looking at individual countries, showed this to be pretty accurate. Some countries money supplies were as much as 200% of GDP, while some countries were as low as 50% of GDP, but that seemed to be the range.
A country like the USA with the dollar, which is used all over the world would obviously be on the higher end of that scale.
A country like Iraq, who’s GDP is mainly from oil sales which are done in dollars, would be on the lower end of the scale.
Iraq’s current GDP is about $90 Billion.
They currently have an M2 of 60 Trillion dinar which is worth $51 Billion.
$90 Billion GDP
$51 Billion money supply.
Put Iraq at 56% of GDP. On the low end of the scale, but seems pretty reasonable for a country that 80 to 90 percent of it’s GDP comes from oil sales.
The gurus “research” some how tells you that they will RV to have $60 Trillion in money supply, (which would match the rest of the world combined… ROTFLMAO).
Which if my math is correct, would give them a money supply 66,600% of GDP… while the rest of the world is in the 50-200 range.
And that’s just a 1:1 RV. Many of the pumpers claim $3 or even $5 RVs.
Mark… how’s that for a little macro economic breakdown?
I go into some nearly round the clock meetings for the past 4 days, mostly on the situation in the ME, and this board falls into the abyss. Take it for what it's worth, but Stew is very misinformed about the currency, and what the CBI website is showing as data concerning currency numbers for Iraq. The numbers there, just like what is going on in the US, are being artificially manipulated. There is much going on with the IQD that I am not at liberty to discuss, because frankly, nobody on this board has the required security clearance. However, all of you doubters will soon see what the truth is, and it does not fall in line with what Stew thinks or says. There is so much going on behind the scenes right now, with the IMF, the UN and the World Bank. If Stew was someone other than a, to borrow a phrase, "Monday Morning Quarterback", and actually held a job where he had access to the information I have, he would be flabergasted at what is really going on.
It amuses me that he calls me a pumper. I work for an organization that deals in trillions of dollars a year. I make a very good salary, and because of my position, I am not allowed to invest in, nor own any foreign currency, so I guess that kind of shoots down Stews pumper theory. It doubly amuses me that he links me to someone else on this board, yet I am, who I say I am, and it's not JC. Once this is all over, I will reveal who I am.
Based on the feasibility study Iraq released last year valuing their currency at $1.13 I expect an RV of approximately $1.50 or close.
GR... Last year?
That study was found and made the rounds on dinar boards about 4 years ago. I remember the firestorm it created back then. It also contains this line.
"It is demonstrated in this context to call for assessing the dinar for less than (3.208) dollar (official exchange rate) when assessing project outputs and inputs of traded goods of exports, substitute imports and imports... etc."
The dinar hasn't had an "official rate" of 3.20 since sometime before Saddam was removed. That was end of 2003. So that study is at least 7 years old and probably older.
GovCon, one thing you should realize is that people have claimed to either be IMF employees or connected to IMF employees for a long time. They have made claim after claim as to what and when things are going to happen, all of which have had absolutely zero credibility.
Also, if you are not allowed to own foreign currency, nor are you trying to pump dinar - what are you even doing here? Not stating that you don't have the right to voice your opinion, however it makes no sense. You claim you cannot tell who you are, nor can you say what will or will not happen or even when, so it brings one back to the question that if you are not a dealer or pumper, why are you bothering your time with this.
Also, it does not really add to your credibility when you claim that the documents provided by the CBI, which have also been certified by Ernst & Young, are lies to manipulate the numbers but you know what the truth really is.
Brit… you see here the lengths that these pumpers like JC/GOV Co will go to get people separated from their money. First he claims to be some ex-military highly educated multi millionaire business man with contacts at the Central Bank of Iraq. Then he reappears as an IMF employee who tries to tell you that all the facts reported by the Central Bank and the IMF are indeed just lies.
You're dealing with the same type of people that write those Nigerian Bank scam e-mails that show up in your mailbox somehow. In other words… the real scum of the earth.
OK Stew and other folks please give me your thoughts on this
Iraqi Institute for Economic Reform (IIER)
. Allocating credit to specific economic sectors, such as investment projects in the fields of agriculture, manufacturing industry, and small and private economy medium enterprises. This is part of a plan to stimulate the investment sector, which will be of great benefit to the national e
. Broadening the use of monetary policy tools, and achieving complementarity between the objectives of monetary policy and monetary tools, ensuring there is no conflict between them.
. Enhancing the integration and coordination between monetary and fiscal policies, in order to achieve a greater degree of uniformity in their directions. As such, securing monetary stability and working towards deepening the financial sector with supportive and coordinated measures, would ensure the release of the Iraqi economy.
Secondly : At the level of the foreign exchange market (auctions currency)
. Creating a market for foreign exchange comparable to the rest of the world economies, with a clear law that protects those who work within it. The Central Bank is to supervise and monitor this market, and intervene indirectly when correcting any disruption in the Iraqi exchange rate. Thus, the Central Bank may contain a large part of the foreign exchange market within the official exchange market, ensuring its ability to controlexchange and the stability of the exchange system, and increasing confidence in its foreign exchange dealings.
. It is necessary to seriously consider adopting an exchange rate system, to ensure the effective management of a real and stable exchange rate (as the general economic and monetary policies in Iraq neglected the real exchange rate of the Iraqi Dinar, regrettably, it rose to four times that of the exchange rate in 2003; the international competitiveness of the Iraqi economy consequently collapsed, thereby destroying investment opportunities). It is also necessary to detach the Iraqi Dinar from the US Dollar, in order to protect the value of the Dinar from fluctuating Iraqi international exchange rates, and to make the exchange rate of the IDinar commensurate with the reality of Iraqi balance of payments.
3. Supporting the Central Bank in the provision of a variety of foreign currency reserves of its commercial partners, such as the Euro, Yen, .Pound and gold. Thus, there may be a lesser degree of reliance upon the Dollar, in particular in case of its fluctuation in the world stock exchange
4. It is necessary to first place lower and higher limits on the international reserves, and that these limits be known and respected. Additionally, it should be specified when, where and how these reserves are to be used, the relationship of a deficit or surplus in balance of payments, and the es, function of the reserves in case of a substantial reduction in oil resourcor worse.
5. Creation of a money market between banks which allows them to deal with each other and with the Central Bank. Whether this involves foreign currency (those with which Iraq engages in major trade and economic transactions such as the Dollar, Syrian Lira, Jordanian Dinar etc.), or short‐term securities; this would contribute towards a deeper financial market. Such a market would serve to increase the effectiveness of
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Gradual withdrawal of the Central Bank from engaging in exchange by means of daily auction of currency. This should no longer be the case in Iraq as we enter our seventh year of such an approach, considering that central banks usually conduct such auctions only in exceptional circumstances and for short periods of time.
Therefore, having served its purpose, this approach should stop at this point as we shift the market mechanism to control the exchange rate of the Iraqi Dinar, under thesupervision of the Central Bank. This should coincide with the establishment of a formal market that is more open to foreign exchange.
3. It is necessary to completely separate the sale of foreign currency to the private sector from the government oil source, and the policy of intervention in the exchange market. This will not be achieved unless there is an independent office for the sale of foreign currency.
It should be known that the current exchange rate is a result of the sale of around $100 billion of oil resources to the private sector, and not, as thought by many, due to a policy of intervention in the exchange market. Such a policy is not practiced. The responsibility for this confusion is not only placed upon the Central Bank, but also upon the Ministry of Finance which does not have a budget for its foreign currency resources.
http://iier.org/i/files/docs/IIER_recommendations_Assessment_of_monetary_policy_in_Iraq_-English-.pdf
http://ktfmissions.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1589193
This link shows whats up Stew!
LZ... That link just takes me a donation page, and ask me to login. I'm not signing up for Frank's site, so you'll have to give me the gist of what it's saying.
James, I could be wrong - but the portion that you are referring to seems to be the recommendation that led to the CBI auctions. Not the daily auctions, but basically 90 day t-bills.
I get Frank highlights from a family member who thinks that Frank and Ali are sincere. It scares me that he has put a great percentage of his retirement beans in Frank's IQD pot. Here is Frank's latest:
"Thank you AGGIEDAD for your wonderful spiritual post today. Family I told you that I would give you a small post today if anything happened. Iraqi TV said today that the budget will be finalized this Sunday and they gave a 100% guarantee that it would happen. I believe them. TV said besides the budget ministers will get their allotted money from the budget to do their departments work. 70% of the budget will go to the ministers and 30% will go towards investors and investments for the country. TV said T met with MoF and told him to pass the budget NOW!!! TV said the salary of the three Presidents will be reduced Sunday.
I wish to apologize for reporting yesterday that M had told the citizens they did not have to pay any traffic tickets. That was a mistake when I took notes from DELTA……..I heard incorrectly. The Amir of KU said this to his people yesterday. Plus he told them no charge for electricity and water. He already told them last month they would all get a handful of money and he would pick up their food tab for the next two years. Look at the timing for all of this Family. The Amir returns home last month from visiting M and spreads the wealth the next day. M goes to visit the Amir a couple of days ago and once again…….the Amir spreads the wealth in KU. He already took 20% of the budget to do the first promise. Now another big chunk will be required for these latest three promises. Do you see the pattern?
I have only one more thing to tell you about the budget. I’m sorry……..but the math does not add up at all. Sunday they will approve a budget of 96 trillion IQD’s. Their M2 shows they have 25 trillion IQD’s on hand. The difference between these two is 71 trillion IQD’s. In order for them to accomplish their budget that they are going to approve this Sunday…….and find an extra 71 trillion IQD’s to fulfill the budget……..they would have to increase the value of their currency to $3.50 - $4.00 USD. When you consider the 300 thousand jobs that will be activated in another week………and the 96 trillion IQD budget…….something just does not add up right. It’s impossible at 1170 let alone the possibility of hyperinflation if they do not adjust their currency to fulfill all these projected big plans of theirs.
Did you see what oil did today? Did you hear us talking about it on the CC last night? Si Si………LOL!!!
There are red apples and green ones and MacIntosh apples even the apple of my eye. I used to use apples when I was a little kid to do my math homework. Now that I showed you my math may I ask
you …….how do you like them apples?"
Thanks Robbie, that's the post i was trying to put ut up.
Stew, how far off do you think Frank is? I think he is in fantasyland. Ali definitely is in bed with him.
Some have claimed that Frank has a narcissistic personality disorder, I personally think he is nothing more than a snake oil salesman using peoples' trust in their religion against them in order to peddle his wares and push his agenda.
IMO, Ali keeps people like Frank and Dinar Daddy at arms reach as to not be liable for their pumping or promoting of baseless rumors for the purpose of dinar sales.
Too bad this isn't a business with much, if any, federal regulation. If there was this garbage of pumping the dinar through lies and misrepresentation would probably go away, or better yet - have never started.
Stew,
You keep linking Jc and myself as pumpers. You are walking a fine line between slander and liable. I would highly advise you to choose your words very carefully.
Now, the meetings I attended earlier in the week had everything to do with the Iraqi budget, and it's implications on our inner workings at the IMF. Every single one of you who say the purchase of dinar is a scam is sadly misinformed. Though it probably will not go up to the rates that many have proclaimed, it will be readjusted in the very near future. The budget was officially passed and approved today. The numbers that you don't have access to, are beyond your grasp. The most pleasure i will get out of this finally coming to a conclusion, is seeing the huge amount of egg on Stews face.
As for my reasons for being here, since I am not invested in the IQD? Part of my job is to browse economic blogs and websites, and this site is one of the best out there. Just because I personally am not invested, doesn't mean I don't have several dogs in this hunt.
The books for the US treasury are also verified, but I can assure you, they are manipulated to allow you to see what THEY want you to see. If any one of you knew how totally corrupt governemnts around the world are, it would make you ill. If ANY common citizen were try and to pull off what these governments do, they would be thrown into a prison cell so deep, they would never see the light of day.
What do you think will happen to the pumpers/ dinar salesmen when and if the dinar lops?
Stew, You are fighting a loosing battle I liked your break down its good. A few wholes one being that the curancy is all in Iraq for starters. Are there Scammers and pumper out there of couse there are. You are boardering on Slanderess remark with nothing more then a web site to back you up. Thank your stars this is a BLOG. Im sure that you are just like most poeple and believe 95% of what you read. I a sure you that if you are reading from a news paper or some type of post you will be greatly miss informed. In other words not everything in writing is true. You have yet to explain yourself when it come to the American Banks that you can buy the Dinar from. Are they taking my money too, or how about the US militay you know the ones that hand out the money on the bases there in Iraq at a current exchange rate of 1170. The military dose not charge a fee but the banks do, not a 500.00 fee but a fee never the less. If you call the banks at home and you turn in A million Euro the fee is just as high as ALI's if not more. Even if the dinar gose from 1170 to 500 people have made something. If you want to complain and guide people away for the pumper just advise them on how to not get screwed when they turn the funds back in. Because the money that I have I can turn it right back in to my bank at home, for a fee of course, and get my investment right back. I'm pritty sure that this will pan out like all my other investments. I will just have wait like everyones else in the world. As far as the guy with the Government conection I know that Like very few other on this web site that Insider trading is illegal. Anyone remember Martha Stewart. Only the Power that run the world will be able to have this information and I'm betting that the Dinar break out will come when oil consumption is at it highest point. Oil has Value and so do the countrys the own it. If you havent been over seas to see the progression of the middle east then you should not be blogging about infastucture and economy. I can tell you the Middle east like a profit as much and anyone and they love Capitalisum. Where there is capitalisum there will be economy's to grow. By the way stew stated if you had been to the middle east/Iraq,UAE or Kuwait?
Mark....Obviously English is not your first language. Please , in the future, use your spellcheck and thank you for not posting in Arabic.
LOL… I love it when pumpers posting under anonymous names like JC or Government Connected accuse me of slander and liable. Truly hilarious. How can you slander an anonymous person? Will I get a court ordered subpoena to show up and defend myself against a plaintiff named Governmant Connected? LOL
LZ… Frank obviously has trouble with basic math.
For six years now, Iraq has come out with a budget, and every year the pumpers/gurus claim that because the budget is more than the money supply they must RV.
They’ve been wrong the past 6 or so years and they’re wrong again this year.
Iraq recycles their currency all year long. That’s what the auctions do. The Gov spends money, they then take dollars from oil sales and buy back the dinar to use it again. That’s how they control the money supply.
Beyond Frank’s ignorance of that basic concept… he claims the M2 is 25 Trillion. Where he gets that figure… who knows. Iraq’s Central Bank shows an M2 of 60 Trillion.
His most entertaining math is when he claims the 25 Trillion is not enough and they need another 71 Trillion. Even if you except his flawed thinking that would mean they only need basically 3 times more currency. So you would think with that logic they would only have to increase the exchange rate 3 times… so from one tenth of a penny to 3 tenths of a penny. Yet Frank math says they need to increase the rate about 3,500 to 4000 times. Huh?
Stew,
It is hilarious that the pumpers like JC/GovCon think everyone is stupid and scared. Slander.....gimme a break.
It seems Dinar daddy is addressing the possibility of a lop. It is really amusing how they have to explain the simplest things in detail to the followers so that they don't get confused.
http://theiraqidinar.com/2011/02/20/dinar-value-increase-explained/